Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:01 The bishop had some real problems. He'd been sent to take care of one of the most trouble places in all of Christendom. Less than a decade before the country, Mexico had been ruled by the most blatantly satanic regime known to history. Only a decade before this had been a country where by using a razor sharp obsidian blade, the still beating heart of a man was sliced out of his chest and offered up along with his body and blood to placate the demonic gods as tech worships. This had barely been a country where by imperial law, every town with a temple had to offer a minimum of a thousand human sacrifices to just one of the principle demons of their religion to say nothing of the sacrifices that had to be lost to the other demons. This had been a country where specially chosen children were raised in a really soft and pampered fashion so that they were old enough and fat enough.
Speaker 0 01:06 They would cry more as they were tortured to death. And why did they want the children to cry more centered, buy more tears, to offer up to the demonic rain? God and the hope of better rates. This had been a country whereby the estimate of their own Aztec historians, the empire, sacrificed one out of every five children and were for at least one major festival. They were known to have sacrificed over 80,000 men just for one festival, 80,000 men to satisfy one of their demons. But although the conquistadores had stopped him and sacrifices a great, many of the natives had now been enslaved and forced to work in the mines. As a result, the Indians were beginning to resent the Spanish rulers even more than they had resented the Aztec rulers. The situation had grown so tense that a great uprising seemed eminent. And on top of this, the present of the Governing Council and prison, anyone who dared to defend the rights of the Indians, it got to the point where p priests were dragged from the pulpit and locked up for actually daring to criticize the situation.
Speaker 0 02:28 So the Bishop, a Franciscan named Juan Daisy, Morocco, had some real problems. Not only was he responsible for God, for protecting and converting the Pagan Indians, he also had to care for all the souls of the Spanish. And that included the tyrannical rulers. But this was one bishop that didn't sit around and ring his hands and take public opinion polls. He was a real man. He prayed and then he went out there and went to work. He infuriated the rulers by publicly preaching against them and they're sinful abuses of power, but that wasn't having its desired effect. So in 1530 shortly after he had taken charge, he put Mexico City on her inner deck. What does that mean to put next car city on an interdict? It means he completely stopped the administration of the sacraments to the Laity, except if they were actually dying or that finally got everyone's undivided attention.
Speaker 0 03:32 The king intervened and basic rights were a store to the Indians, but the exploitation left its mark. Having encountered so many bad examples. It's not too surprising to learn Indians who are not particular interested in converting to Catholicism, but the Bishop placed the future of new Spain and the conversion of the Indians under the protection of our lady. And he asked her to acknowledge his prayer by sending him some roses from Casteel on Saturday, December 9th, 1531 Juan Diego, that Saint Juan Diego and Indian widower who is around 55 years old now living with his uncle, set out in a six mile walk to go to mass and attend catechism lessons on the way the path led over here, I'll call it Papaya. It's the highest hill right in the neighborhood of Mexico City. And as he walked up the hill here, the most beautiful music, it was bird singing in a way they'd never heard before.
Speaker 0 04:33 When the music stopped, he heard a woman's voice calling his name and his native tongue Juanito my little one, my dear little one. He saw a glowing white cloud up in the neighborhood of the voice and then suddenly he saw her lady standing in the midst of that cloud. Our Lady Ass one eater, my son, where are you going? And he replied, my holy one, my lady. I am going to mass and catechism from the religious fathers who teach us. Our Lady said, my very dear son, you must know that I'm the ever Virgin Mary mother of the True God who is the author of life, the creator of all things, the Lord of Heaven and earth who is present everywhere. I decided that a church should be built here in which as your most merciful mother, I should show my love and the compassion I feel for the natives and for those who love and seek me for all who implore my protection, who call on me in their labors and afflictions and which I shall hear that weeping in their supplications, that I may give them constellation and relief.
Speaker 0 05:38 Therefore in order to them I will may be accomplished. He must go to the city of Mexico and to the palace of the bishop who lives there to tell him that I've sent you and that I wish the church to be built in this place. Tell them all that you've seen in her and be assured that I would be most grateful and we'll reward you for doing all that. I ask Saint <inaudible> and city he'd do a, she asked and he immediately set out from Mexico City at the best. She was power, the Syrians meeting. Wait a good long time. Afford meeting him in to see the bishop. The bishop patiently listened to saint one story and then asked Tim to come again and talk about this another day. St One left, went back to <inaudible>, almost had sunset and he find her lady their wedding for him.
Speaker 0 06:26 He knelt down before her and begged her to send suddenly more than someone that's more important and noble in him to get the job done. I let he smiled and taught the St wine to go back to the bishop in the morning and repeat her request. So in the morning sent one went back. This time it took hours and hours for st wine to be admitted to see the bishop in order to make sure it wasn't a deception of the demon. The bishop asked for a sign from our lady st one assured the bishop or lady would give him whatever sign he wanted and he struck off for the hell again. The bishop ordered two servants to TL st wine and see what he was up to, but one saint one got to the base of the hill. They suddenly lost track of him. They thought they'd been made fools of that by the Indian who ditched them and the angrily returned to the bishop and suggested that he should be flogged if he ever dared to show up again.
Speaker 0 07:23 In the meantime, saint wine find her lady waiting for him on the top of the hill. He told her that bishop had his doubts and wanted to sign. Our Lady replied, so be it. My son returned here tomorrow and you will have the sign for the bishop. Then he will believe you be assured that I shall reward you for all you've done gold now. Tomorrow I will be waiting here for you. St One hurried home to find his uncle deathly ill with the typhus is arm class St wan to bring a priest, tears, confession and give them the last rates. So very early on Tuesday morning, December 12th St wan set out to get a priest. Since he had not yet fulfilled their ladies request, he decided to take a different path around the hill just to make sure he couldn't possibly bump into her even though he thought he gets slipped by without being seen by our lady.
Speaker 0 08:16 As he's picking his way or a different way around the hill, he sees her lady descending down the hill at Gladi right down to intercept him in his path. My dear little one. Where are you going? What road is this you're taking? She asked and his embarrassment caught sneaking around the hill. St Guan gave what for me is the classic response to the Saint Troy Lady. God keeps you lady. Did he sleep well and how has your health, we can only imagine our lady smiling and then regaining his composure. St Juan told our lady that he'd be back to carry out his command, her commands as soon as he find a praise to hear his uncle's confession and give him the last rights, I lady replied, listen and let it penetrate your heart and my two little son do not be troubled or weighted down with grief. Do not fear any illness or anxiety.
Speaker 0 09:07 Am I not here I am your mother. Are you not under my protection? Do I not hold you in the folds of my mantle? Is there anything else you need to not worry about your uncle's illness at this very moment he is cured. Now my son go to the top of the hill and there you'll find many flowers. Gather them together and bring them here to me. St Juan hurried to the top of the hill and found all kinds of beautiful flowers including Castilian roses and full blossom. He gathered as many of them as he could fit his outstretched, taped, and this cape, this thing called a Telmo and brought them to our lady who then just like a good mother, rearranged all the flowers and said, my little son. These roses are the sign which she are to take to the bishop. Tell him in my name then, and these roses, he will see my will as he must fulfill it.
Speaker 0 10:03 She cautioned St wan and not to allow anyone to see what he carried until he was in the presence of the Bishop himself and then sent him on his way. St Juan Hurry to the Bishop's palace and once more asked to see the bishop, the servants left him standing outside at the gate. You know, either whole day, late in the day one of the servants tried to find out what Saint Juan had bundled up in his cloak. St One wouldn't answer. They caught a glimpse of the flowers and could scarcely believe what they saw. Fresh rose is in December and stranger. Yet when they tried to grab a few of them, the blossom seed to melt right into the fabric and somehow turn in embroidery roses. Every time they tried to grab that, a servant rushed into report. All these oddities to the bishop who up to this time had no idea that St Juan had been waiting outside the whole day. The bishop ordered that Saint Juan be brought in at once. St Juan told the story of how he asked her lady for his sign and he opened up his toma and out fell a bouquets of flowers and Castilian roses. The very sign the Bishop had asked for in prayer and of course on the Toma was this image.
Speaker 0 11:12 Everyone fell to their knees and after some time the bishop embraced St Juan Diego and begged his forgiveness for not believing him sooner. They took the Tillman and Hank hung it in his chapel. St wan remained overnight as a bishops honors guest in the morning, he led the bishop to the hill and pointed out the exact place where a lady asked the chapel be built. He was anxious to see his uncle. And so the bishop appointed an honor guard to point to accompany him on the way to his home. When he got there, he found his own Clint perfect health. St wan was excited and told the whole story to his uncle. Only interrupted once to find out when our lady had promised to cure it. When San Juan is finished, his uncle had his own tale to tell. He said at the very same hour that our lady had promised saint one that she would cure his uncle.
Speaker 0 12:05 A brilliant light had filled their home and our lady had appeared to him immediately. She healed him. She told him she wished to be known as Santa Maria to Guadalupe. Now Guadalupe is an interesting word in Spanish, why Lou pays a name of a famous Marian Shrine. It goes back to ancient times in Spain and his divine providence would have and language of Aztecs. Guadalupe sounds just like the word, which means she who will crush the serpent, so meant something to both the Spaniards and the Indians. Within two weeks and Iceland Chapel was built on our ladies' site and the day after Christmas, the sacred image was carried there and procession it quite aside. The Spanish were excited, but the Indians were ecstatic yelling out the virgin is one of us. Our Lady is one of us and they excitement. Some of them began shooting arrows all over the place, into the air and one struck another Indian in the neck and killed him.
Speaker 0 13:05 Instantly. It stopped the fun. They carried his body into the chapel and laid it at the feet of our lady praying for America. As they were praying, all of a sudden that dead man opened his eyes, sat up and got up completely healed for the rest of his life. The grateful native swept the chapel floor and did other odd shops around there to show his appreciation for the great mercy. Our Lady had showed him a little apartment, was built next to the chapel and that man and St Juan Diego lived there. The Indian raised from the dead. All these aberrations of our lady and her miraculous image on a Telmo made a huge impression on Indians. The symbolism of the image was clear to them. The woman is eclipsing the sun but ordained or adorned with the rays of the sun. That means she must be more powerful than their son.
Speaker 0 13:58 God. She's standing on the moon. She's greater than the Moon God. She supported by an angel, so she's a heavenly being above angelic spirits. The blueish green veil color is a color reserved to the divinity, but her hands are joined in prayer in her head and her eyes are lowered, which means she's not Almighty. The white for the neck and his slim sleeves are symbols of royalty as are the gold stars and the gold fringe. There's a small pendant on her neck and on it is a black cross. The symbol of the god of the Spanish Padres. She has a black sash tied on, which indicates that she's pregnant. When they needed to, to ask, whose the child of so noble and great a mother, they found out the answer was our Lord and retainment Jesus Christ, who was not only son of the blessed adversion, but also the son of the one true God.
Speaker 0 14:57 The effect of this on the Indians was absolutely incredible. By 1541 within 10 years of our ladies apparitions, the roughly 10 million Indians who had been converted from paganism, 10 million pagans suddenly left lives of polygamy doing kind of what you want and idolatry and came into the true church. And as we all know, there's a lot of rules. That's a Pentecost every day for 10 years. There's never been anything like this in history. Never father to reveal one of the Indian missionaries in Mexico, Rhode Code. Had I not witnessed it with my own eyes, I should not venture to report it. I have to affirm that another priest and myself baptized in five days, 14,200 and odd. So it was closed in five days. More than 14,000 baptisms. The Indians would leg literally begging to become Catholic. As the potteries would get close to a village, they'd run out, kneel down and start making science or pouring water on their head and so forth, begging them to baptize them and let them become Catholic.
Speaker 0 16:11 The Tillman itself is made out of a rough woven, luckily fiber. That's a fabric which ordinary fall apart in 20 or 30 years when I was a kid. That's what Larry, it's good. Larry's from made out of McCovey and they don't last 450 years. I'll guarantee it. They fall apart even in dry weather like Montana, although it's 500 years old almost and hung completely uncovered for more the centuries that anybody that wanted to come up and kiss it, touch it, touch things to it and so forth. The fabric has never deteriorated. As for the image, it's so thin that from the back you can actually see through it. As for the image itself, analysis by specialists of the CODEC Corporation, Mexico led them to conclude the images more like a color photograph than a painting or anything else. There'd been many scientific studies that tell me today a recent study done by a biophysicist from the University of Florida.
Speaker 0 17:01 Concluded quote, the original painting is miraculous close quote in recent decades study that image has revealed images right in our lady's pupils, San Juan de Saint Juan Diego, and the Bishop, at least one of their man are seen reflected in the pupils just as they would be if he had a photograph of a regular eye. There's lots more, but we don't have time for it today. Not Super Easy, not surprisingly, the demons and inspired a plot to destroy the tell him an image of the one who had crushed the certain on November 14th, 1921 during the heights and masonic persecution, a time bomb was concealed and far-based. It was placed right up on below the tele on the high altar. The bomb went right off schedule right in the middle of high mass. Every stain glass window in the basilica was shattered and chunks of marble were blasted right out of the sanctuary.
Speaker 0 18:00 The huge bronze crucifix, the Altar Crucifix was curled up like a wood shaving. It's easy to see pictures. That stage just looks like something you were whittling. It just curled right up, but no one was hurt at all. Not even the priest and Arthur boys were up on the alter at the time. There wasn't a mark and not even a class in front of the image was scratched. 25 Pope's, if they should decrease about holy image of our lady Guadalupe Mango things they've declared. She's a patriotism of Mexico and Latin America and she's the empress of all the Americans. That means that she's our empress. She certainly is the patron as follow us. They're locked into this terrible battle with the principalities and powers behind the culture of death. This Neil Pagan revival that we're in, she's our empress. She's her patrons and she's our mother. Anytime we're having a rough time, we had to meditate on those consoling words that she said, do not be troubled or weighted down with grief.
Speaker 0 18:59 Do not fear any illness. Anxiety. Am I not here I am your mother. Are you not under my protection? Do I not hold you in the fall to my Manto? Is there anything else you need? Am I not here I am your mother. Let's kneel down and close with a hail Mary, asking her to keep us safe in the folds of her mat. Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with Thee. Blessed Art Thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God. Pray for us sinners. Noun, yeah. Of death theme, name of father and son and Holy Ghost. Amen.
